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  • Khat

    Hi. I discovered your blog sometime last year, can’t remember exactly when, and I found your posts insightful. So much so that, after a while I checked out Wealthy Affiliate, the site that your link leads to in this post.

    Wealthy Affiliate was not for me, just like Laid Off to Paid Off wasn’t for you. Here’s what I agree with you about LOPO and other membership/marketing sites like these. The training NEEDS work. When this concept was newer (incentivized freebie websites) it was a lot easier to get leads. But, the methods of advertising for these leads, and the copy writing tactics suggested by the marketers who create these sites (such as making it appear as if it was a 9-5 type job, when it never could be that), is a huge ethical mistake.

    I am not suggesting that Bryan does this, because I’ve never seen him advise this on any of his sites. In fact, he always recommends using solo ads as the best way to generate targeted traffic.

    Secondly, no one should have ever spread the evil notion to advertise any incentivized freebie opportunity this as a no-money/free method for making money. But if he said that the system is free, and based on your article, that was what he was talking about, then he is correct.

    Regarding the trial offers, neither Bryan, nor anyone else is correct in advertising incentivized freebie websits as free, because, if someone has to take out their credit card, it ain’t free. Even if you can cancel and get your money back later on. The appropriate term to use should have been, low-cost. Even Project PayDay suffers from this, in that they state that you can join their site free if you complete a cost-per-action offer – and those are not free.

    So there is a general marketing misunderstanding of what is and what is not free, and how and when to appropriately use this word.

    Wealthy Affiliate shines in this, in that when they say that they have a free membership, it means, free. I never had to take out my credit card.

    (Didn’t they make a commercial about this, where the people were joking about how some credit score companies were telling you that their service was free for 30 days, but, in the fine print, you had to take out your credit card just to be able to get started with the free trial?)

    GetResponse, my favorite autoresponder handles this nicely. They let you get started with a free trial for 30 days. No credit card required. When your trial is nearing end or is up, they send you friendly reminders with bonus offers, and, they store all the subscribers you got during your trial for a limited period of time, so you don’t lose anything, if you don’t start with the paid service right away. They are really friendly.

    Back to the incentivized freebie websites: all the people who end up cancelling offers before the trial ends hurt the credibility of the advertisers and the publishers, who are actually putting good faith in the affiliates ability to generate leads for their products, only to find out that they are being scammed in turn by the affiliates.

    The actual concept behind LOPO is precisely the same as Project PayDay, however. Where Project PayDay shines is in it’s training and that Fast First Fifty. Plus, unlike LOPO, Project PayDay actually pays you to get opt-in leads. And, the Project PayDay model of trading for freebie leads is rarely used by sites like LOPO, and that’s why sites like LOPO don’t work out for the people who join in.

    The best way to get and keep leads is not by offering them a free system. It’s by sharing the commission you earn from the affiliate site, with the lead who completed the credit offers, and then teaching him or her to do the same thing. This is the front-end incentive that greases the wheels of successful freebie trading. Any model that doesn’t embrace this is unfair to everyone involved.

    Sites like LOPO will never really rid themselves of the tarnish of the “near-scam” label if they don’t address this.

    Back to Wealthy Affiliate. I joined. I saw. I got non stop emails. Way way more than I expected or wanted. I found the entire site to be very information crowded, and it just wasn’t for me. Plus, I got upsell emails, too. Just like in LOPO.

    Perhaps you’ll let my comment in, Perhaps you won’t. But to be fair to Mr. Winters, I’ve seen his products, and I can say this about him. He’s generous and overdelivers in many ways, in terms of marketing value. You can even write to him directly about your concerns and he will respond personally.

    That is rare.

    So that’s my two cents. May it serve you and your readers well.

  • Henri van Rooyen
    Henri van Rooyen

    Yes, I have to agree.
    Having spent some proper time investigating Bryan Winters’ various offerings, and there are many! I am afraid to say that he falls into the IM category of yet another one of the 95% trash and tripe. How I am sure so many of us could reach out and lock onto REAL offerings unfortunately still remains the IM…… BIG mystery! I am sure if somebody knowledgeable could compile THE list of worthwhile plans it would only occupy a very small space…..and then we could all disregard all the other shiny new offers!!!!

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