Way back in June of 2007 , I’ve Tried That declared war on data entry jobs as they’re pitched on the ‘Net. I’m ashamed to say it’s been a rather uneventful war. We looked at a few companies but got tired of it because they were all the same schtick. Meet the new Rambo in the War on Data Entry Jobs: Laz Rojas. He truly puts us to shame with his excellent homework, which shows that they’re indeed much the same—even more so than Steve and I suspected. This post is a compilation of his comments (lightly edited by yours truly) on another data entry jobs thread. Words in italics are mine.
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This is a great site, and you do a terrific job of unmasking these scams for what they really are and spelling out what’s really going on in black and white. In just a couple of sentences, you described exactly what these “data entry” programs actually are, while the scammers who sell them write paragraphs and paragraphs describing what they aren’t at all.
Seen One, Seen ’em All
I actually came across your site while checking up on another company. When I first read through its site, I was nearly sucked in. Then I decided to explore some of the other sites that also offered “data entry” work at home. Not because I suspected it was a scam, but because I wanted to see what other options were out there. The red flags went up, though, when nearly every site I went to sounded the same as the one I looked at. The wording on the pages, the claims made, the assurances offered… it all sounded like the same company had put up multiple websites under different names. Even the pop-up windows with the 50% off coupon that expires at 11:59 PM tonight… every site had this. Or the regular $99 price being slashed to $49 for just a short time. So what initially sounded like a great opportunity on the first site I went to, started screaming “SCAM!” when I encountered the exact same thing on other sites. Every site seemed to have been created using the same template and following the same blueprint; every site made the same sales pitch in the same way. More about this below.
Can You Really Find Data Entry Jobs This Way?
Data entry? I don’t think so. What these companies offer has nothing to do with what most people think of when they think of data entry. This is affiliate marketing, plain and simple. And for those people who understand what this is and want to try their luck at it, that’s fine. But telling people who are looking for actual data entry jobs that this is for them is deceptive and just plain cruel. Someone who actually wants to try affiliate marketing might be able to be successful at it, knowing what’s involved and what the risks are. But someone looking for data entry won’t succeed at it, especially since they don’t even know the true nature of what they’re doing and can’t appreciate what’s actually involved.
What Your “Job” Will Really Entail
The bottom line is, the companies that are supposedly providing you with data entry work for which they’ll pay you are doing nothing more than tricking you into doing their advertising for them and tricking you into paying for that advertising. They write their little ads, and then instead of submitting them to Google and paying Google to run them, they get YOU to submit them to Google and pay Google to run them. And all under the guise of “data entry” work! Then they sit back and reap the profits from any products sold without spending a dime on advertising. [Joe’s note: Google Adwords is just one form of “data entry” in this deceptive advertising. You might also fill out affiliate applications and data fields that allow bots to spew spam ads all over the Internet in forums and blogs.]
What really gets me is this: if they were honest and up-front about what they’re actually selling you, and if they were teaching you how to use Google and affiliate ads to advertise and market your OWN products or services to make your OWN business successful, they might actually do something legitimate and helpful. But instead, they are teaching you to make someone ELSE’S business successful and conning you into not realizing that. “We’ll hook you up with thousands of companies ready to employ you and who won’t turn you down” is really “We’ll hand you over to companies ready to use you for their own gain and who won’t turn down the chance to do so.”
Don’t Encourage These Scammers by Clicking or *gasp!* Buying
Open your eyes, people. The only ones benefiting from these so-called “data entry” jobs at home are: 1) the people selling the programs; and 2) the companies they “hook you up with” who simply take advantage of you while pretending to employ you. The system they’ve created certainly works, for THEM. YOU get caught in between them, and get screwed from both sides.
One Template, Many Sites
On two different sites belonging to two supposedly different companies, the same exact text appeared in the testimonials. WORD FOR WORD. Only the photos, names, and locations of the so-called “satisfied customers” were different. What they said on one site was repeated verbatim on the other. The testimonials were even in the same order on both sites!
As soon as I saw this, that was it. There was no way this couldn’t be a scam. And I couldn’t believe how lazy and unoriginal the scam was. Worse than the 50% coupon shtick. With the coupon, you might convince yourself that a site is simply copying another site’s tactic in order to be competitive. But the exact same testimonials from different people? Don’t they realize that someone looking around the web for a data entry job is going to visit various sites and sooner or later encounter this? Or do they really think that once you visit their site, you’ll swallow their pitch and sign up on the spot and not visit any other sites? They think you’re stupid. Don’t prove them right by signing up.
You’ll see that they both use the very same graphic to show their Clickbank accounts. So, both Laura Kauth and Donna Richards made the exact same amount of money on the exact same dates during the second half of May, 2006. :) Both of these sites also use the very same image of a blue iMac with a dollar sign on its screen, and the text following this image is nearly identical on both sites. Indeed, much of the text on both sites, and the arrangement of topics throughout, is nearly identical.
The Enablers: Sites that Promote These Deceptive Programs
Something else I wanted to talk about are the so-called “review” sites which claim to steer you toward companies that are legit, a bunch of which I explored last night. They come right out and say that most of the work-at-home opportunities are scams, and then they claim they’ve done research and found the scant few that are not. And they’re willing to steer you in the right direction because of the goodness of their hearts.
This is nothing but a very clever and deceptive tactic which is in reality an extension of the original scam. These folks know that some people are wise enough to think, to analyze, to investigate, and that these people will figure it out on their own that the so-called job opportunity is a scam. The scammers can’t afford to let such people figure it out. They can’t afford to let people confirm their doubts on their own, because once the people do, that’s it, they’re gone. So they step in and short circuit this by admitting there are many scams, and confirm the people’s suspicion FOR them. They count on the people thinking, “Aha! I KNEW they were scams! I suspected it, and this guy has confirmed it! He’s fighting for truth, he’s trying to save me from falling for the scams. So if he recommends a site, he must be telling me the truth.” The scammer knows that once he’s got you thinking he’s on your side by confirming what you already suspected and rescuing you, he’ll have your trust. And once he has your trust, he can scam you to his heart’s content. Saving you from falling into the hole in front of you, he can steer you right into the hole next to you.
These review sites are all over the place. One guy proclaimed he could prove he wasn’t a scammer because he wasn’t asking for money. He was steering you to the “legit” opportunities and asking nothing in return. Why would he lie, if there’s nothing in it for him? There’s no reason to lie if there’s no incentive, right? So he must be telling the truth. That makes sense, doesn’t it? WRONG. Asking for money is not the only component of a scam. When I read this guy’s assurance that he was on the level because he wasn’t asking for money, I immediately thought, “Yeah, but how do I know you’re not getting money from scammers you’re steering victims to? You can refrain from asking ME for money because you’re getting money from THEM. And how do I know you’re not the scammer yourself, pretending to be someone else professing to have found a legit site and steering me to your own site?” [These promotional “review” sites are affiliates of the “data entry” programs, and they make a commission every time one of their readers clicks a link and signs up.]
This trick can work because people equate “scam” with someone taking their money. The assumption is: If no taking of money is involved, it must be on the level. You need to realize that no taking of money is involved in this trick because this trick is basically just Part One of the scam. The taking of money happens in Part Two, and the only purpose of Part One is to lead you right into Part Two. It’s like the game of three card monte, which is run by TWO con artists working in concert. One guy plays the game and wins to make you think YOU can win, but he’s in on the scam all along.
Thanks for the terrific points, Laz Rojas. I couldn’t have said it better myself. Let me add, however, that there ARE legitimate data entry jobs to be found online. I know because I had one. Entered subscription information from cards into an Excel spreadsheet. But I didn’t find it by searching for “data entry jobs” through Google. I found it at Craig’s List.
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Diane from 2008 had three examples, but the second one was removed. Why?
is there any means that once the online jobs or scam site be automatically blocked? this is to minimize the victims of the fraud. as of now, scam are everywhere and we, as a serious online job seekers will fall for the bait. this way will help a lot of job seekers. i hope online scams and illegitimate websites will be automatically blocked. thanks.
Amen, Whale. Think then doublethink when you’re dealing in this sticky world of online data entry jobs!
Judas, you sure your name isn’t “Thomas” now? Heh.
Of course, Judas. It’s not like they could have noticed it and fix their fake pictures if account in the last two years…
This is a comment to Laz Rojas, the guy who shows that the 2 websites, Online data entry jobs and Work at home jobs.tv, have the exact same clickbank accounts. That’s actually not true. I’m looking at both of them right now and one is dated Oct. and the other in Mar. Plus the numbers are not the same at all.
Look… they do look like scams, what with their love for the same font colors and stock photography,(I have that PC logo with the dollar sign)but c’mon, man. What was written here is obviously false. I’m not saying i’m gonna join either of these groups, but I came to this site for an answer to my problems and if one of the examples that I get is wrong, I question everyone’s integrity.
Thank you for your work – you just saved me from wasting some money. I was almost sucked in by Laura Kauth (if there is such a person).
This kind of scam is shameless and unforgivable considering the kind of people they are targeting. I think they can justify it in their own minds as ‘misadvertising’ – to me it’s just lying.
Anyway, thanks again,
I have tested and reviewed 3 data entry programs.
One was mintjobs.com the other was [edited]
and last was typistjobs.net
When I joined mint jobs I was impressed at first with all the extra programs they give you within their members area although for the specific job I wanted to do which was data entry I was left very confused.
The whole program basically reared towards pay per click advertising which is not convenient for most.It is too expensive for one,and for two, it was very complicated in the way they presented it. I emailed mintjobs.com for help and got an email 3 days later which was very short and did not address the specific questions I had.I emailed a second time and asked for more concise answers and felt like it was a bunch of pep talk above anything else.I was very disappointed.
The last program I tried was typistjobs.net
This particular members area I entered was very different from the other two.
The instructions were much more clear and they offered many other ways to type ad forms including several free and other low cost ways with direct instruction which really impressed me.
In my opinion,the average person would not be able to afford pay per click and even understand it unless they already knew what they were doing.I emailed this company and their support team was very efficient in answering my questions and also very helpful.
Out of the three programs I tried, typistjobs.net was clearly the best program,offered the most relevant information,online tools and support.
I give typistjobs.net an A+ between the three.
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I looked at it, Indra. My advice is to run fast and far from any site that leads with “How would you like to make an extra $200, $500, or even $1,000 per day doing data entry!” Another giveaway is that drop-dead gorgeous woman at the top. (Is that Keira Knightley??) Nobody looks like that when they’re working at home!
If you wouldn’t expect to make that much at an offline job, why would an online job pay that much? I’m going to do a full write-up of home typist jobs soon, but the short version is that hometypist.net is the same game: you will be typing information into affiliate ad forms and you get paid only IF someone clicks on your ad and then makes a purchase.
You’re not going to make $200 per day doing this. You’ll be lucky if you don’t SPEND more money after getting involved with a program like that.
Thanks for the heads up, and stay tuned for the full review.
Really valuable information. May be you want to look typistjobs.net. I only found positive comments on this one. Finally, a legit data entry job?