Can you really make $45, $75 and $175 for completing typing assignments? That’s what the site TypeatHome.com claims you can do when you sign up and pay one or more of their kits.
What is Type at Home all about?
The storyline starts out as follows: TypeatHome, or TAH, obtains typing work from “daily profit companies” such as Home Depot, AT&T, Netflix, etc. It then passes on those typing jobs to its trained typists, who work either on a full-time or part-time basis to complete their assignments.
Part-time and full-time typists earn $45 and $75 per completed assignment, respectively. Business owner typists make $175 per completed assignment.
Before you can get started on these high-paying assignments, you’ll first need to purchase your appropriate training kit. The prices of these kits are $29.99, $59.99 and $89.99.
Once you pay for your kit, you gain access to a series of training videos that help you prepare for your new career as a stay-at-home typist. You are also given a detailed, 1-2 hour long assessment at the end of your training.
After you pass your assessment, you are provided with a list of typing jobs.
A video on the TAH sales page lists the following steps to becoming a professional typist:
Register for a position with TAH (in 5 minutes).
Complete a basic training course (in 30 minutes).
Complete your first assignment and email it to us for payment.
Sounds simple…but is this work-at-home opportunity real? Here’s why I don’t think you should trust TAH’s claims:
1. The website is filled with typos and stolen content.
You’d think that a typing company would take care to ensure its copy is free of spelling errors. However, in the introductory TAH video, I found this glaring typo:
Likewise, if you watch this video’s footage, there is a point where a bleed-through copyright notice comes through from Getty images. This tells me that TAH is blatantly stealing stock photo content.
2. The ‘assignments’ are fake.
TAH discusses what kinds of assignments you’ll be completing as a work-at-home typist. Your assignments are noted as follows:
So far, everything sounds believable. However, TAH then showcases one example article that it claims paid out $75 to its typist. The article is a HubPages post.
To begin with, HubPages is a revenue-share content aggregator that does not pay upfront for content. I should know because I wrote for this site for several years.
However, let’s assume that the actual company that paid the $75 was LocateFurniture.com, not HubPages. If you search on LocateFurniture.com, you’ll come across an ad-heavy website that has just two pages of content and very little useful information. I highly doubt that this site ever paid a typist even $20 for content. More than likely, this site was hastily created by TAH to stand in as an example of a well-paying client company.
3. The customer complaints tell a different story.
If you look up online reviews of TAH, you’ll come across many of its unhappy customers. These customers note how they paid the up-front fee to TAH and expected to receive actual job listings from the company. Instead, what they received was either non-access to the members’ area or typing assignments that paid little to no money.
Listed below are just two examples of dissatisfied TAH customers:
4. You shouldn’t have to pay for a job.
Legitimate employers and clients don’t have you paying money to secure work. If you have to pay money to obtain a job, there’s a good chance that job doesn’t exist or is a scam.
What’s the reality behind TAH?
Type at home “job opportunities,” of which TAH is a part, entice you with offers of big money for little work that you can do right from home. Once you pay the membership fee, you receive access to poorly compiled training materials that are designed to keep you busy so you delay getting a refund.
After you “graduate,” the program provides you with the highly anticipated job leads…except that the leads aren’t really for actual jobs. Instead, you receive a list of companies and businesses that you need to solicit for typing work. Unsurprisingly, those companies have no idea that they’ve been featured on a third-party list for typing jobs.
Type at home scammers evade legal issues by stating that they are making you aware of job opportunities, not actual jobs. In the case of TAH, Troy Gri (the site’s creator) of Prana Systems, LLC defends his scheming ways by stating that typists hired with TAH are actually sub-contractors. As such, they receive their assignments through Troy.
However, for its supposed 17-year history, there is not a single authentic account of any TAH sub-contractor getting paid. Instead, you see a long list of customer complaints about the lack of real typing assignments, and/or non-payment of requested refunds.
The Bottom Line
Whenever a work-at-home company asks you to pay money up-front and in exchange for a job, your suspicions should be instantly raised. In the case of TAH, not only does the company not deliver what it advertises, but it engages in outright plagiarism of online content. You are best advised to stay away from this online scam.
At I’ve Tried That, we review a lot of work-at-home jobs and online income opportunities. This is because there are many ways to make extra money, from affiliate marketing to blogging to freelance writing.
However, I was scratching my head when it came to figuring out just how one particular program enables its members to make money online. The program in question is called “Profit with Jay.”
Welcome to “Profit with Jay”
If you do an online search for work-at-home jobs, you’ll eventually come across a relatively new program called “Profit with Jay.” This program promises that you’ll make 100% commissions simply by processing emails. A YouTube video explains the process as follows:
We then hear from a guy who supposedly uses Profit with Jay to make lots of money. He explains that, once you sign up to this system and pay a $25 fee, you receive step-by-step instructions that teach you how to do something called email processing. You also receive marketing materials and access to a members’ area.
That’s all you learn about the actual program before this guy elaborates on his own rags-to-riches story and how he now makes a comfortable living from home thanks to email processing.
As the video rolls on, it eventually reveals another snippet of information about the Profit with Jay program:
From the screen shot shown above, it appears that your job will involve posting affiliate ads online, then following up on customer purchases with emails.
A second testimonial confirms this idea- a guy sitting in his car elaborates on how he posted ads to Facebook and Craigslist in the morning, and then discovered that he’d been paid from those ads by the afternoon. These payments came in when customers clicked on his posted ads.
Interestingly, each ad payment is exactly $25.
At the very start of this program’s video, it was stated that members receive a 100% commission for their processed emails. That means that the product is priced at $25.
The Profit with Jay program is also priced at $25.
Unless I’m mistaken, my suspicion is that the actual product you’re advertising and processing emails for is none other than the Profit with Jay program itself. I could be wrong, but…
Profit with Jay- could it be a modern take on the old Envelope Stuffing Scam?
If you look online, you’ll eventually locate Jay Brown himself, touting his email processing program on YouTube:
Jay states in his video that he’s been doing this program for the last four years; meanwhile, his video descriptor says six years.
Jay shows off his Paypal account as “proof” that his email processing program works. Again, we see a long list of $25 payments from customers. Jay explains that this program is legit, and that additional information about how it works can be learned once it is purchased at $25.
Jay assures hesitant buyers that his website does provide additional info about the program.
However, the only information that the Profit with Jay website offers is this set of customer testimonials:
The customers all refer to someone named James…but who is James? As for the testimonials themselves, they are very short and generic- and could be testimonials for just about any kind of online income opportunity. There is also no contact information provided on these satisfied customers.
We see the following example email on the website, which Jay notes is very similar to the kinds of emails you’ll be sending:
It’s intriguing that, even in this example email, it’s stated that the recipient is receiving instructions, a manual, and ads. These are the same items that were promised to anyone who signs up for Profit with Jay, at least according to the program’s checkout page:
Aside from the testimonials and the example email, nothing further is noted about the program, its marketing materials, the aforementioned step-by-step instructions, or where you’ll be posting ads. Nothing further is stated about how your emails will be written, or whether you’ll receive additional training to craft them properly.
However, there is significant effort dedicated to having you buy the product, and then sell something very similar through email processing and advertising.
This is nothing more than a modern take on the old envelope stuffing schemes. You pay $25 to learn how to trick other people to pay $25 so they in turn can deceive more people and this goes on until the FTC gets involved.
Read the fine print
Let’s say your curiosity gets the better of you and you decide to purchase the Profit with Ray program. Most online income opportunities come with a money-back guarantee. So, if you don’t like this opportunity, you can just ask for a refund…right?
Not so fast.
If you click on the disclaimer area of Profit with Ray, you’ll come across the following statement:
So, once you’ve made your purchase, the Profit with Jay system is yours to keep- whether you like it or not.
Before you purchase Profit with Jay, understand that you may be throwing away not just $25, but any money thereafter that you spend on pay-per-click fees, advertising, etc. As the program itself states, there are no refunds for it or any of the associated fees.
As a result, you’re better off passing on this “opportunity” and seeking real opportunity elsewhere.
You may have encountered Sandy Sauve if you’ve clicked on various work-at-home opportunity ads, including this one:
When you click on the ad, you are taken to the following screen and embedded video. Here, you meet Sandy Sauve, who tells you that she earns a full-time income working from home. This opportunity “does not cost anything to get started with, there’s no up-rate costs later, you don’t have buy things, and you don’t have to sell anything.”
Welcome to My Flex Job
When you input your name and email, you are taken to a second video page, where Sandy describes the work-from-home opportunity as requiring no person-to-person selling, out-of-pocket costs, cross-sells, up-sells, etc.
What exactly are you doing? According to Sandy, there are big companies like Netflix, ProActiv, etc. that have people sign up for their sales and trial offers. These sign-ups must later be email and age-verified. Your job will be to validate ages and emails and enter this information into a worksheet. You’ll be doing this for a company called MyFlexJob.
On a YouTube video published by MyFlexJob, your job title is ‘Trial Offer Processor.’
So far, so good.
Red flag #1: Fake company photo
Sandy highly encourages you to go to the My Flex Job website and sign up. When I did that, I encountered the following page:
I was a bit disheartened to see that My Flex Job had inserted a stock photo for its company’s physical site and just pasted the My Flex Job logo on this photo. When any work-at-home company does something like this, it’s an immediate red flag for me that not everything is as it seems.
After I filled out the online job application, I was taken to a second video to complete my certification. And that’s also where I encountered another red flag.
Red Flag #2: You pay for software
The certification video on the MyFlexJob website explains that, as part of your certification, you’ll be required to purchase MyPCBackUp, a software program that will store the sensitive information you acquire while entering customer data into those aforementioned worksheets. MyPCBackUp costs $25 for a 3-month subscription.
But wait a minute- Sandy Sauve said that there would be no out-of-pocket costs to sign up with this company.
MyFlexJob goes on to say that you’ll be credited $25 in your account once you complete the certification.
That all sounds great…until you complete your certification and verify that you’ve purchased the software.
Red Flag #3: You must earn your $25 ‘credit.’
Once you are in the MyFlexJob website, you learn that, in order to cash out your $25 software credit, you must have an account value of $50 or more.
Furthermore, all your earnings are paid in ‘points,’ not actual money, with 100 points being equivalent to $1. You must first convert your points to dollars, and onlythen can you cash out.
It could be argued that the company does this to not only save money, but to ensure that its workers and not just signing up for free software. So, playing devil’s advocate, let’s look at what kind of work is required to earn enough money/points for a $50 payment.
Red Flag #4: You’re the one filling out trial offers!
When you first go to the MyFlexJob assignments area, you encounter the following instructions about how you get paid and what you actually do to earn that money:
From the language used, it sounds like you will be the person/customer who is completing company trial offers. Not other customers.
As you scroll down the assignments area, you encounter trial offers where the ‘data entry worksheets’ are none other than short forms where you need to fill in your own personal information like your full name, email, phone number, etc. These trial offers are with companies like Netflix, Groupon, Disney, etc.
You might be thinking, what’s the harm in signing up for a free trial offer of product X or service Y? Granted, the trial might be free, but if you forget to cancel your subscription by a given date, you’ll be charged. In fact, the FTC has a few things to say about ‘free’ trial offers and their inherent risks.
Also, many free trial offers require that you pay for shipping and/or product returns.
For each offer you successfully complete, you are credited with a given amount of points from MyFlexJob. In fact (and to avoid legal issues), the company even explains this condition on its terms page:
So, your actual data entry involves inputting your own personal data into forms provided by the marketing automation software of third party businesses. No doubt about it, MyFlexJob is probably making a handsome commission from your signing up for these trial offers.
Red Flag #5: Paid affiliates and actors
On its terms page, MyFlexJob lists the following disclosure:
Some testimonials for MyFlexJob.com may be provided by paid affiliates or professional actors.
Why would a company that offers work-at-home jobs not have any of its actual workers provide testimonials?
Red Flag #6: Unnecessary software
Remember how you were instructed to purchase MyPCBackUp software as your condition of ‘certification?’ Well, you have absolutely no need of this software in order to complete free trial offers with MyFlexJob. So, why would this company have you purchase useless software? Well, they are paid up to $120 per lead (read: YOU) they get to install the MyPCBackup software.
Hopefully, if you’ve already purchased this software, you can write the company and get a refund.
The Bottom Line
While My Flex Job is not an outright scam, it has too many red flags and elusive terminology for me to wholeheartedly recommend it as a legitimate work-at-home opportunity.
At best, you’ll complete trial offers on this site that will allow you to reach your $50 threshold and cash out your earnings. At worst, you’ll sign up for offers that will either cost money up-front or result in you forgetting about them, at which point you’ll end up paying even more money for products/services you never wanted in the first place.
There are simpler and easier methods for making a few extra bucks that don’t involve paying for software you don’t need and products/services you never wanted.
Cash From Home and its counterparts have been around for a few years now, offering the idea that you can make a decent amount of money for simply adding a link! There seems to be a resurgence in promoting them which is worrying. Let me explain why.
Cash From Home apparently highlights the success of a lady called Kelly Simmons who has a true rags to rich story.
The essence of it is that she was a struggling single parent who just lost her job – a story that we can relate to quite easily.
Supposedly she met a guy at a part time job who showed her his work from home system. Fast forward and boom! She’s a millionaire, and works less than part time.
This all sounds really appealing, I mean who wouldn’t want to work a couple of hours a day and rake in even just a reasonable amount of money?
The sad part is that Cash From Home is simply leveraging peoples hopes, desires and desperation to actively suck money from them.
How Does It Work?
The idea behind this system is that you post links and get paid per link. That sounds amazing, not only is it easy work but the price per links is about the same as a decent minimum hourly rate – $15 bucks for 4 minutes work.
The reality though is that you will never get paid $15 per link. Think of it this way, if people on Fiverr.com (who get paid $4 per gig) will manually add 35 forum links, or 25 links to educations sites, then how likely will it be for you to get paid $15 for a solitary link?
Not likely at all.
The Warning Signs
The sales page for Cash From Home has so many scam markers that it’s scary!
Just take a closer look at these and you’ll understand why this sort of system is nothing but a scam.
#1 System Name vs. Domain Name
This might seem unimportant, but the fact that the system name (Cash From Home) is different to the actual URL (SecureBusinessSites) is a telling marker.
What it suggests is that the people behind this scam are using cheap expired domains that have an air of legitimacy to push this system.
#2 The TV Logos & Video
This is a popular psychological trick used by nefarious marketers. The idea is that the logos add a sense of legitimacy to the site even when they really have nothing whatsoever to do with the product.
The cleverly avoid lawsuits (just about) by using wording like “Work from home opportunities have been featured on:”. That statement is likely true, it just doesn’t mean that THIS system has been featured, but sadly not everyone picks up on that and instead subconsciously increases their trust in the site.
They also include a recording of a newsreel from NBC talking about work from home opportunities. This reel has been used in an incredible number of scam sites and is solely there to once again add a veneer of respectability.
#3 Unrealistic Promises
Telling people that they don’t need any skills or experience is a great way to hook people in. Everyone would love to make money easily, but the truth of the matter is that making money, whether it be on or offline, does require skills and experience. Sure you can get that along the way, but to promise instant earnings with no skill set is misleading at best.
#4 Requesting Your Phone Number
This might seem a very minor thing, but really, why do they need your number? Simply, in order to sell you stuff! Once they have a number they will call you or sell it to someone who will try the same thing.
Typically, we see reports from people who signed up for these kinds of systems that suggest that they will call you and try and sell you a “big ticket” system that costs hundreds to thousands of dollars.
#5 The Calculator
Cash From Home conveniently provides you with a calculator that works out how much money you can make from using this system.
This provides you with a dopamine rush when you see the potential earnings, but does not really prove that those earnings can actually be made!
#6 The Dream
One of the most powerful marketing tools available is to show you a dream and convince you that using this product will help you achieve that dream.
To be fair this sort of technique is used by all marketers, ethical and villainous alike, but at least the ethical ones will only use it when they have a product that can definitely provide the outcome. Link building simply doesn’t have that sort of future.
#7 Over Use of Highlights and Bolding
OK, so you may be thinking that this shouldn’t be a marker for a scam site, but it is most definitely one. By using highlighting and bolded text marketers can draw your attention to specific areas of the text, perfect for skip readers.
Scam marketers have a tendency to overdo it though and this is visible on the Cash From Home site.
For me, it’s also one of the easiest ways to spot a site that while maybe not a scam, it will surely warrant closer inspection.
The Duplicate Sites
If those points haven’t given you pause, then consider this: the exact same site (or 99% same) is used in other places.
Two sites called simple-income-strategies.com & access.premiere-online-income.com both use the same copy text and formatting, with some minor differences.
The main changes are the system name and logo, the name of the person with the success story and some images.
Mary’s name change made me laugh as apparently they all have a daughter called Amanda, and went through the exact same issues.
Ah, I hear you cry, but the disclaimer on Cash From Home states that they used fake names and stock photos.
That’s right it does, but let’s be honest here, just because they said they are using them to hide someone’s identity doesn’t mean they are telling you the truth. Plus the other two sites don’t contain that disclaimer.
The reality is that Amanda (or Kelly or whoever) doesn’t really exist. She’s simply a tool created by these marketers in order to invoke trust and convince you to hand over your details and money.
The Bottom Line
Link posting systems don’t work. Even if you make some cash from them, it’s not going to be life changing. In fact the only thing that these people want from you is for you to prove your gullibility by signing up in the first place.
From there they then have you by a hook and will slowly reel you in promising you the world while sucking money from your bank account.
Cash From Home has numerous markers that flag that this is at best an unscrupulous marketing ploy and at worst a scam.
Please, avoid link posting scams and Avoid Cash From Home and its duplicates!
How Does the Aussie Method Compare?
It doesn’t. It’s not a real opportunity. It’s a program designed to get into your wallet.
I’ve Tried That has been reviewing products since 2007. In that time, there’s one program that stands above the rest. It’s free to get started, has no ridiculous hidden charges, and will help you build a sustainable income from home.
If you have ever had an idea for an invention, you’ve probably had an online encounter or three with Davison Inventions. This company has operated under several different names since 1989, including the following:
Davison Inventing Method Davison & Associates Inc. Davison Design and Development, Inc. Manufacturer’s Support Services, Inc. Davison International Davison Innovations
What is Davison Inventions?
Davison is an inventor services company that advertises that it will help develop and market your invention idea to manufacturing companies for eventual distribution of the actualized product to stores. Davison provides a number of invention services, including patent research, patent filing, product development/design, manufacturer research, commercial/retailer match, and royalty negotiation.
Here is an example email I recently received from Davison:
If you go to the company’s website, you’ll find the following information displayed:
For an aspiring inventor who is struggling to get her product to market, Davison sounds like a good idea. The company offers to help with the invention patenting process, find manufacturers to create the product, and even negotiate with area stores to stock and sell the finalized product. Davison even features several videos highlighting inventors who turned their ideas into store products.
So, why would you not trust this company to help you realize your big idea?
The problem with Davison Inventions
Unfortunately, the company has been criticized numerous times by burnt inventors, who state that they paid thousands of dollars to work with Davison and saw nothing come of their collaboration. Online complaints include the following:
To be fair, Davison has faithfully replied to and addressed many of these online complaints. However, there are many upon many such complaints, and far more than would be normal for a standard invention help service. Searching online, one finds many scam and review sites listing complaints about Davison.
Back in 2006, the complaints reached a crisis level and the FTC became involved. The FTC case against Davison, as well as its resolution, is posted here.
My personal experience with Davison
A while back, I submitted a product idea of my own to Davison. The product in question was what I called a “Human-Powered TV.” This product converted energy generated by an exercising human into voltage that could be used to power a device such as a TV.
Davison emailed me immediately after I made my submission. Keep in mind that I had not yet paid any money to the company at this point in time.
I found it heartening that Davison had addressed its involvement with the FTC and had provided at least an acknowledgment of its many critics.
I replied to their email and emphasized my concern about paying thousands of dollars for services that might result in me getting no closer to a realized product than when I’d first begun putting my idea to paper. I also asked why Davison had hundreds of online complaints about its services.
Within a day, I received a rebuttal email that addressed some of my concerns. Here is an excerpt:
While this is a great rebuttal to some of my concerns, it doesn’t completely answer why there are so many complaints about Davison even on third party review sites. Shouldn’t such review sites be populated with all kinds of reviews- negative, neutral and positive?
I eventually had a phone call with one of Davison’s agents; however, at this point in time, I decided to ask other key questions. For starters, I asked which specific companies would be approached about my invention idea.
My Davison agent, to his credit, provided me with actual names of existing manufacturing companies. He did not say if these companies had been approached about my specific invention, however.
We then discussed whether Davison had ever blatantly refused to develop any invention idea. This topic came up because one of the criticisms about this company is that it will claim any and every invention idea has potential and is worthy of being marketed. I also asked how my invention had been deemed worthy of being developed.
Davison’s agent was more vague about answering this particular question, stating that it would be up to the manufacturers to decide.
The agent then gave me a ballpark figure for moving forward with my invention. I would need to pay $600 to initiate a patent search on my idea. Prototyping would run another $5K-$8K. There was also a “marketing package” that would require development and cost $1K-$2K.
I replied that I would “need to think about it” and the conversation ended there. I received a few more emails and voicemails from the Davison agent, but after a month had passed, they ended.
Why did I not pursue a collaboration with Davison?
Davison presented me with a good pep talk for filing an invention patent and building a prototype. Everything sounded great until I happened to do an online search for human-powered devices, including TVs. Without too much effort, I quickly discovered that human-powered electronic devices had not only already been introduced, but even sold.
Had Davison chosen to do even five minutes on pre-research on my behalf, we would’ve known that my invention idea was a bust.
So, had I agreed to pay for a patent search, I would’ve already been out $600, and for information that was freely available through Google.
Although every company has its share of negative reviews, the many complaints against Davison are worrisome. Likewise, there are no review sites or former Davison clients providing positive reviews about this company.
There is also the FTC filed lawsuit to consider, wherein Davison was named as one of 11 companies involved in an invention scam.
High cost of commitment
Davison asks for several thousand dollars up-front for services that may or may not result in a marketable product- or even a product at all. Meanwhile, there are far cheaper ways to build your prototype, including using an area hackerspace. You might also fund your invention idea by using crowdsourcing sites like Kickstarter or submitting your idea to a business pitch contest.
While it’s challenging to call Davison Inventions an outright scam, there is enough evidence and negative customer feedback that you are well advised to be wary when dealing with this company. If you do plan to work with Davison, don’t invest any capital that you need for essentials like food, utilities or your mortgage. Finally, keep in mind that seeing any invention pay off is a gamble no matter who is handling the marketing and negotiations.
Work at Home EDU, or WAH EDU, starts out innocently enough, promising to teach you how to succeed in your “online business” through a “complete educational program.”
As you scroll down the WAH EDU sales page, you learn that you’ll be provided with 100 HD videos that teach you the “basics of an internet business.” You also get “general videos” about the internet marketing mindset, “basic videos” about linking strategy, and an introduction to the “fundamentals of an online business.”
The sales page notes that much of this information is ideally suited for those who are new to internet marketing and making money online. The sales page also mentions how the videos “cover more advanced techniques.”
At the very bottom of this form, you find a link to a checkout page. There, you are asked to pay $97 for 3 months of access to WAH EDU. Interestingly, the checkout page provides you with a 2-month satisfaction guarantee within your 3-month access subscription- however, you have just 30 days from the date of purchase to get a refund.
Why am I emphasizing how many times WAH EDU uses the terms “basic,” “general,” and so on?
Because it is my belief that WAH EDU provides you with a very generalized and dare I say, generic, education about how to make money online through Internet marketing. This education is available for free through other work-at-home and online marketing blogs and websites.
It’s also my belief that WAH EDU carefully crafts its sales page language to later market additional products to you as cross-sells and up-sells. It does this because it knows its basic information on Internet marketing will be insufficient to get you started at actually making money online.
WAH EDU: The tip of the scam iceberg
Here is the current iteration of the WAH EDU sales page, which incidentally looks a lot like the now defunct sales pages from WAH University, Online Home Careers University, and Work at Home EDU:
The copy used on this page is fairly generic and simply promises to train you in the basic of Internet marketing, whatever that is. The page eventually notes that advanced concepts will include items such as social media, social bookmarking, article and video marketing, SEO, PPC, and media buying.
You also get unlimited support by phone and email, and a free subscription to a newsletter.
All this looks fine until you start to do some digging into the history of this sales page, which has been online since at least May of 2011. Using an archive tool like Wayback Machine and digging into the history of WAH EDU, I found out that there is a lot more going on with this site than first meets the eye.
1. Questionable refund policy
The WAH EDU refund policy states that it has a “rock solid” refund policy of either 60 days or 30 days.
The policy also makes this one eyebrow-raising statement:
When a refund policy tells me that customer service is going to contact me for “any additional details,” that makes me a bit suspect- especially when the initial refund page states that it has a “No Questions Asked” guarantee.
If I use the Wayback Machine to elaborate on these discrepancies, I find out that earlier WAH EDU refund policies noted that the refund would occur only if the member had used the provided materials in accordance with certain WAH EDU policies and procedures.
That doesn’t sound like a Rock Solid money-back guarantee to me.
There are also these comments to think about, provided by WAH EDU members who wanted to get a refund:
WAH EDU’s current Terms & Conditions page gives a very vague statement about how or whether it plans to inundate you with other sales offers. The old T&C page from early 2015 shows the following script, however:
Going through online forums, past WAH EDU members ad the following to say about how much they really ended up paying for the program:
3. False news/spokespeople/testimonials
When you use the Wayback Machine to its full capacity, you can find links to pages that WAH EDU tried to rewrite and bury years ago- but never quite succeeded in doing so. These pages are filled with fake news and news videos, fake spokepeople that have their photos derived from stock image sites, and fake promises of big earnings.
For example, Michelle Robinson is touted as one of the satisfied customers of WAH EDU. Interestingly, this woman’s photo matches the photo provided for Bobbie Robinson of Work at Home Institute and Michelle Withrow of Work at Home EDU. The photo in question is derived from iStockphoto.
There is also a list of news sites that have supposedly featured this program:
However, this exact same sticker has been used on other scam work-at-home sites, including Work at Home EDU. As for the actual news, there is no way you can find it and the sticker itself has no link.
The fake promises of big earnings clearly conflict with the disclaimer areas of the site, which state the following:
Last but not least, WAH EDU has resorted to using “buy now!” sales tactics in order to hurry potential customers along in the sales process before they get a chance to consider their actual purchase:
The Bottom Line
WAH EDU is just another iteration of “work-at-home” sites such as Work at Home University, Work at Home EDU, Online Home Careers University, etc. The scammers operate out of Houston, at least according to the “support” phone number provided on the checkout page. However, that support line is merely a cover so that you call it and become inundated with cross-sell and up-sell products.
My advice is to steer clear of WAH EDU and its various other versions.
Work at Home Institute (WAHI) has been online since 2013 and makes a very bold claim: By following this program, you can quit your job and make a “sizable income” from home.
What exactly are you doing to make this sizable income?
From unemployed single mother to millionaire
First, you get to read about the rags-to-riches story of Bobbie Robinson, a single mother who worked “really hard” and got laid off. Luckily, her daughter pushed her to not give up, and “soon after the nightmare began, I discovered the internet.”
Following along with Bobbie’s story, we learn that she eventually met a man who worked from home. This man told her how he managed to work part-time yet make a comfortable living. Bobbie applied to whatever site this man was working for, and just three months later, “I now had an easy work at home job that required 4 hours or less per day.”Best of all, “I make millions per year…I am able to buy what I want, take long vacations, and give my daughter the life she always deserved…”
What is this amazing work at home job that makes Bobbie millions per year for part-time work?
The ‘big secret’ is link posting.
Apparently, big companies don’t have the resources to hire additional employees to post online links for them, so they contract the work out.
How does link posting make money for you? Here’s how WAHI explains it:
You log into your WAHI account and copy the link codes that are supplied to you.
You go to an area of your WAHI account where “customer records” are added and where you can post your copied links.
You fill out a “few simple details” and post your links.
You go see how much money you’re earning from your links.
WAHI’s sales page then shows you what a “typical account” would earn in a week:
As yet more “proof,” the WAHI sales page showcases Patricia Feeney, another work at home mother. WAHI also claims that this program has received national media attention.
However, when you listen to the minute long report, you hear nothing regarding the WAHI program. The video is also heavily edited and just introduces the generic concept of working from home.
Likewise, the WAHI tries to make it appear that it’s been the subject of major news networks such as these:
This is a common tactic used by many work-at-home opportunity sites to make you think that they are legit. However, the sites that actually have been featured on the news include an actual link or story to that news network. Within the WAHI sales page, you can’t click on the news network sites and have no way of verifying what exactly was reported.
So, why else am I skeptical of WAHI’s claims?
The customer photos are fake.
WAHI showcases photos of customers along the right hand side of the sales page, along with their glowing testimonials. Some examples include these customers:
However, when you do a Google image search of these individuals, you quickly learn that they are all stock photos.
The program availability is fake.
The WAHI sales page does what a lot of scam programs do when convincing you sign up- it creates fake program availability for your geographic area. Somehow, regardless of where you live or even if you input a fake zip code into the form, there are always just 3 positions left in your area:
These 3 positions never go down to zero, no matter how many times you refresh this page.
I should add that another programmed feature of this program is its instant price markdown when you try to leave the sales page. The program drops from $97 to $77, and then $47. This happens no matter how many times you leave the page or return to it.
Bobbie Robinson is fake.
The spokesperson for this program is portrayed on the sales page as a 20-something woman lying in front of her laptop. However, when you perform an image search on her, you learn that she also goes by the name of Michelle Withrow of Work at Home University and Stay at Home Revenue, among other work-at-home scams.
Oh, and the actual photo of Bobbie/Michelle? It’s actually a stock photo.
Link posting isn’t exactly how affiliates make money.
WAHI tries to convince you that you can make lots of money by posting a few links a day and collecting huge referral commissions when people click on and buy products via those links. While link posting is one way that affiliate marketers earn money, it’s just the tip of the iceberg. True affiliate marketing involves creating websites and filling them with valuable content, emailing subscribers, blogging, creating informational products, publishing product reviews, etc.
True affiliate marketing can make money, but it won’t happen just by posting links, like Bobbie claims.
WAHI offers no real people who back up their claims.
The WAHI contact area is a generic 877 phone number that leads to an outsourced customer service line. You have no way of contacting the actual creators of this program and, as already mentioned, the spokesperson herself is fake. Should you run into any challenges along the way with the WAHI program, you are out on your own.
The WAHI program offers very generic information on who might even be around to help you. Supposedly, after you sign up for the program, you are matched with an “Internet expert.” But why would you need an Internet expert and not someone proficient in affiliate marketing?
Also, you supposedly gain access to a WAHI members area called Startup Freedom Club. There is no mention of how many members are in this club and if any of the program’s creators help answer questions, etc. A club made up of members is fairly useless if all those members also have no idea how to get started and make money through affiliate marketing.
The Bottom Line
Our team has done hundreds of reviews over the past 10 years here at I’ve Tried That. When we review programs, we focus on looking at the three core components that are needed to build a successful business online:
The online presence you create: What presence is the program helping you build? Typically you are given a website, store front, or blog.
The training you’re being taught: What do you do once you have that presence and are you given step-by-step instructions on what to build?
The support you’re being offered: How well will the product creator assist you in building your business and is there a community to turn to for discussion?
If you want to truly succeed online, you need a combination of those 3 things.
Work at Home Institute does not hit any of the three. You aren’t building a meaningful presence, the training is deceitful & will never work, and there is absolutely no support or customer service being offered. This is nothing more than an attempt to grab as much money from you as possible.
“You’re about to make $1,000,000 in the next 27 days. Guaranteed.”
So starts the spiel of Martin Taylor, the spokesman for the 7 Figure Club. Here’s a photo of Martin.
After we see some glowing customer testimonial videos, Martin’s spiel continues. “I want to make ten invites into millionaires within a month.”
In fact, Martin says that, if you’re not a millionaire in 27 days, he’ll pay you $10,000 out of his own pocket.
Why is Martin being so generous? He doesn’t say. How does Martin plan to pay you $10,000 of his own money? He also doesn’t say.
And just how are you guaranteed to become a millionaire?
By using Martin’s state-of-the-art binary options trading software, apparently. This software “requires zero financial knowledge, sets up in a few clicks, and operates on autopilot.” It’s also completely free to use.
Martin notes that you could “take your daughter to dance recital, stop by the grocery store, and come home to find that you’ve made $358,900.” That’s how automated this automatic software really is.
After you input your name and email, you see a second sales video. Here, Martin explains how you’ll be earning your cash.
Oh, what a tangled web 7 Figure Club weaves…
Martin explains that you’ll be making money by, in essence, riding the financial coattails of automated binary options trades. “You just register, for free, when a new guaranteed profitable trade is available and you get paid that money into your account.”
It took me some time to understand how this would work.
Somehow, if you register your account when a trade is about to be placed and- I assume- won, you get to keep the money from that binary option trade.
Before you can proceed with your registration, Martin has some bad news: All ten spots have been filled.
Or, maybe not…
Martin then goes on about how you can still register for an account before all spots are filled. Huh?
You’ll also need to register an account with Martin’s recommended broker. Why? Because Martin’s software is “built to interface with my broker’s system,” and so “he’s the only one with compatible software to mine.” In fact, “anyone other than my broker will not be able to connect, which means they can’t make trades and collect your binary profits.”
Martin notes that his broker is ISA authorized, which increases security and better protects your investments. What is the ISA?
I searched “ISA certified brokers” on Google but was unable to find anything that defined ISA in terms of brokers. I did locate information on customs brokers, however, and how U.S. Customs and Border Protection asks them to complete importer self assessments, or ISAs. But how does this relate to trading software?
There’s a method to the madness
Once you input your name, email and phone number into the form on the second sales page, you are directed to Martin’s recommended broker. In this case, it is Bee Options.
Once on the Bee Options page, I learned that in order to activate the 7 Figure Club software, I would need to make a deposit of $600.
The fact that you must pay $600 to use the 7 Figure Club software already tells me that this freebie isn’t really free.
I also learned something else: 7 Figure Club is offered as an affiliate product on Clicksure.
When a product offers affiliates a $250 commission per sale, is it any wonder that there are at least three pages of search results sporting “positive” reviews for 7 Figure Club? Also, these reviews all contain affiliate links such as the following:
7 Figure Club features several customer testimonials, including the following:
Upon closer inspection, it appears that the happy customers are actually actors who sell their testimonials on Fiverr at the rate of $5/testimonial.
There are also these “security measures” that the site provides:
There are no links associated with these security seals, which makes them essentially ornamental. The same can be said of the following news announcements- if you can’t click on the trademarks and find the associated story, then the announcement might as well be imaginary.
The website shows the following countdown of spots left available:
This counter eventually goes to just one spot left available. However, if you refresh your page, you again have “9 spots left” on the counter.
The 7 Figure Club proposes that it will make you a millionaire in under a month, but provides no strategy on how that will happen, just actor-based testimonials. You are also told that you will be paid $10,000 from Martin Taylor’s personal funds if he fails to make you a millionaire- yet again there is no strategy provided or even how you would receive those funds. Furthermore, you are on the hook for $600 of your own money if you try the software out. This is nothing but a plain old binary options scam, and the only winners here are the affiliates and brokers, not you.
Binary options scammers make up all kinds of stories to hook you in. Some scammers pretend to be oiligarchs. Other scammers spin tales about affairs and death threats. The list goes on and on.
And speaking of which, here’s the next story line to hit the binary options circuit: Flip My Binary Account.
What is Flip My Binary Account?
Ronald Green has a proven method for making tons of cash using binary options accounts. In sum, Ronald’s method involves flipping already established binary options accounts to willing buyers. Using this system, Ronald has earned over $737,700.71 in just the last two months. And now, you can too.
How does Flip My Binary Account work?
Ronald, the CEO of Flip My Binary Account, explains that he will “teach you a strategy how to create a binary options account and then flip it…to another person for huge profits.” Ronald adds that, at this moment, there are thousands of wealthy individuals who are eager to purchase your binary options account “via a little known bidding site just like eBay.” These buyers are looking for an account that shows consistent growth, much like any other business.
In other words, your binary options account is just like a business that you can buy and sell- and thus profit from.
But why would buyers be looking to buy an already established account when they could just as easily open a new account?
“Because they simply don’t know where to start. They don’t know what to do. So, you’re basically giving these people a piggyback.”
Ronald adds that he has created a members’ forum where like-minded binary account flippers will help you get started and give you tips and strategies of maximizing your earnings. However, in almost the same breath, Ronald also tells you that you can operate your business on auto-pilot. Your account “produces money for you every single month regardless of whether you’re at work or on vacation or even asleep at your bed.”
We’ve heard about these auto-pilot income producers before. And we’ve also learned that “make money while you sleep” systems are almost always pure scams.
Why am I skeptical of Flip My Binary Account?
Reason #1: The testimonials are generated by actors.
Ronald shows multiple customer testimonials as proof that his system works and makes money. Here are a few examples of his satisfied customers:
The problem with every one of these testimonials is that they are generated by paid actors- specifically, actors that can be hired at $5/pop on Fiverr.
Reason #2: Ronald Green doesn’t exist.
I looked up Ronald on LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter and Google. I tried several different business listings, including Dun & Bradstreet. Ronald either doesn’t exist, or his name is too common to pick up when searched with Flip My Binary Domain.
Reason #3: Flip My Binary Account is listed on Clicksure.
Clicksure is an affiliate network well known for hosting many scam products that don’t make it to more reputable places like Clickbank. Flip My Binary Account is listed on Clicksure.
As a result, most, if not all, of the positive reviews of this product contain affiliate links. And who wouldn’t sing the praises of this product when the reward is a $250 commission?
Reason #4: You need to open and fund a binary options account.
The main objective of any binary options scam is to have you sign up for a new trading account so that the scammer makes a commission from the brokerage. In my case, I needed to create a new trading account with Bee Options.
There was no mention of trading strategy or a members’ forum when I went to Bee Options. There was only the deposit page of the brokerage. Incidentally, the minimum investment amount to open an account was not $250, or even $500, but a whopping $600.
Reason #5: The strategy doesn’t seem realistic.
I don’t know about you, but it seems unrealistic to me that wealthy people would not know how to open a binary options account, and that they would rely on you to take this critical first step. Opening a new account is just not that difficult.
Also, because a binary options trading account is linked to a bank account or credit card, it just can’t be transferred like a website or some item on eBay. In fact, legitimate trading platforms like eTrade go to great lengths to confirm your identity and ensure that you’re not using someone else’s bank account or financial information. Most trading platforms will also ask if you are subject to IRS withholding and require your social security number.
Thus, transferring an account to someone else would be difficult if not impossible.
Finally, how would a person make money from your binary options account anyway? You need an active trader to make money through binary options trading. An account will not just automatically make money.
Summary: Flip My Binary Domain is a scam.
The fake testimonials, lack of concrete proof of a members’ forum, as well as the listing of this product on Clicksure all point to Flip My Binary Account being a scam.
Question: What’s the easiest way you can make your latest binary options get-rich-quick scheme seem legit, especially when there are websites like RealScam exposing it for the scam that it is?
Answer: You generate the persona of a trusted retiree who now tests binary options trading platforms and can tell the scams from the legitimate ones. Furthermore, this “expert” is so outraged by other online scammers that he calls them out by name and attempts to debunk their “scams.”
Case in point: “Roy Tribble” of Scam Watchdog. Here’s Roy decrying how affiliate marketers (you know, scammers) push their wares on unsuspecting online consumers and use nefarious means to capture emails. By the way, please note the photo placed next to the name of Roy Tribble- you’ll see this same photo later on in my review.
This character claims that he is testing binary options trading platforms and setting aside the ones that pay out at least 51% of the time. Furthermore, this financial expert not only reviews the platforms for you, he also integrates the “winners” with his own free trading software, so that the chances of you making money on your binary options are even better.
Roy claims that he is making no money whatsoever from promoting the decent binary options platforms. He also wags his finger at sites like One More Cup of Coffee for posting affiliate links and trying to capture reader emails. However, if you click on one of the binary options platforms that Roy recommends (where the text says ‘Click here to sign up’), such as the Artificial Intelligence App, you’ll see something intriguing about that link:
The entire link, when clicked, appears as follows:
On the above page, Roy claims that he is making good money using the AI App. I’ve Tried That recently published an AI App review and found it to be a complete scam full of fake testimonials and an imaginary Dr. John Clark, PhD.
Here’s another link that Roy posted to his other recommendation, Binary Matrix Pro: http://www.binarymatrixpro.com/?clickID=490653260&affname=cubd1&S1=
Yet another affiliate link. Just like with AI App, I’ve Tried That also published a Binary Matrix Pro review and found it to be a scam.
As for not capturing emails, Roy’s site eventually asks you to sign up for his newsletter through several different means, including this pop-up.
What really drives Scam Watchdog?
If you listen to Roy’s Welcome Message to New Visitors, you’ll hear a supposedly 62-year old retiree tell you how he created his amazing binary options software after talking to a binary options expert. Of course, Roy “can’t name who he is yet” but “I may do that in the future.” This trading expert told Roy a big secret about binary options trading that then led Roy to create his own super signal software.
That’s the flowery introduction to Scam Watchdog. But what really drives the site is this: Roy reviews and recommends binary options trading platforms to his readers. The recommended trading platforms are all affiliate linked to Roy. He also recommends that his readers accumulate and open a minimum of 20 (or even 40) of his “Master List” of recommended platforms.
After his readers have opened up all these platforms, Roy promises to give them his free Super Signals software to link to those 20 or even 40 platforms. Supposedly, this free software will improve the readers’ odds of making the correct call on a binary option, resulting in them “winning” their yes/no calls more than 51% of the time.
Naturally, no binary options platform is going to operate without a cash infusion. Typical binary options platforms require at least a $250 minimum investment. Thus, a person who opens and funds even 20 of Roy’s recommended platforms needs to invest at least 20 x $250 = $5,000.
What Roy never states is that, when people open and fund those recommended trading platforms listed on his Master List, good ol’ Roy gets a big fat commission from every new account. Many binary options platforms pay as much as a 50% commission per subscriber. Thus, even if a person provides his trading software for free, he still earns money.
Then there is the matter of the recommended trading platforms. One such platform that Roy recommends is CTOption. This platform pays out only 50% of your initially placed sum if your option expires in the money (i.e., you make the correct call on an option). If your option expires out of the money (i.e., you make an incorrect call on an option), you lose your entire payout or 100%. So, on average, your calls will result in a net loss for you.
Of course, Roy’s software is intended to improve your odds of having your options expire in the money. However, he doesn’t talk much about the software or how much it improves your odds. Roy mostly talks about the other binary options platforms you need to download and fund.
Who is Roy really?
Even if you’re willing to take the risk and use the binary options trading platforms that Roy recommends, consider the following troubling indicators about the individual who goes by the name of Roy Tribble. Here is a picture of the guy you are supposedly getting trading advice from:
Roy looks fairly trustworthy, at least according to his photo (which also appears on his LinkedIn and Google+ accounts). However, a simple Google image search reveals the following truth about Roy:
It looks like Roy is available for the low resolution price of $50.
Another troubling indicator with Roy is, when you go to his Google+ account, the following URL is displayed:
Scam Watchdog also uses the URL of billhweld.blogspot.com after you click on any of its internal links.
Who is this Dr. Bill H. Weld? Luckily, the WayBack Machine provides a possible answer. If you use WaybackMachine and go to June 25, 2014, you find the following information displayed on the billhweld.blogspot.com website:
Who is Justin Tribble?
If you search on his name via Google, you will eventually find several websites and YouTube videos that link Justin to a “Nano Domestic Quell” hoax involving a man named Dr. Bill H. Weld. The story behind Nano Domestic Quell is that the U.S. government is conspiring to infect all citizens with a deadly flu virus that can be triggered at a moment’s notice through cell phone towers.
On the Scam Watchdog website, there is a page where Roy Tribble explains the entire conspiracy that his “nephew,” Justin Tribble, had become involved in. Roy emphatically denies that Dr. Bill H. Weld is not a real person or a hoax. There’s just one problem with Roy’s denial- there is a YouTube video in which Justin is documented as confessing to the Bill H. Weld hoax. How is this explained away?
On Roy’s page, it’s noted that the U.S. government forced Justin to confess that the Dr. Bill H. Weld flu virus conspiracy was a hoax:
So, to recap, I had “admitted” the “hoax”.
However, just a year prior, that same Justin Tribble was the perpetrator of an actual hoax, which he did admit to on ABC news. This earlier hoax involved Justin tweeting that a well-known pastor (Joel Osteen) was going to resign from his ministry. The minister graciously chose to turn the other cheek (i.e., not sue Justin) regarding this prank.
The ABC news segment showed Justin’s Nevada driver’s license at one point. On that screen shot, the license shows the name of Justin Roy Tribble.
So, according to these data, it appears that Roy is Justin. And if Roy is Justin, and Justin has pulled off at least one officially documented prank, then how believable is the entire Scam Watchdog site anyway?
The Bottom Line with Scam Watchdog
Would you entrust your investment decisions to someone who generates online hoaxes and posts stock photos of himself? I know I wouldn’t. Likewise, would you use software that is created by someone who can’t even name his secret source/expert and who provides no evidence of how this software looks or functions?
If you want to start engaging in binary options trading, there are plenty of registered platforms out there that have been examined by the SEC. Otherwise, you stand to lose your invested funds very easily.
This year, one of the biggest scams around is the car wrap or car advertising scam.
And if you aren’t careful, it could cost you thousands of dollars…
Here’s how the scam operates:
In a nutshell, you were looking for a legitimate work from home job and you received an email asking you if you’d like to make some money by having your car wrapped in a well-known brand logo (e.g., ROCKSTAR Energy Drink).
Once you respond, you are sent a check for several thousand dollars and asked to deposit it.
You are also asked to keep some money for yourself and wire the remaining cash to a graphic designer. This designer is then supposed to come and decorate your car.
The only problem with this plan is that the check is fake and bounces after a few days of sitting in your bank account.
However, the bank is legally required to make the funds available to you immediately. The scam artist will tell you to you then forward the cash via money order to a third party.
Now, you just sent away thousands of your own dollars to an overseas criminal. The check IS going to bounce and you will be held liable for the missing money.
Typically, you will lose between $3,000-$4,000 on average.
And that doesn’t even include any headaches from having to explain to the bank why your are depositing fake checks into your account.
The scammer walks away with a fat stack of your money and you are left footing the bill.
This post was originally published in 2013 and this scam is STILL occurring today and will continue into 2020.
In fact, car wrap scams are now even more dangerous as the people behind them are coming up with more convincing ways to trick people into losing their hard earned money.
The very first question I get asked is: “Can’t I just take the fake check to one of those check cashing places and keep the money?”
The answer is a hard no.
Check cashing facilities do not hand out money anonymously. You need to provide them with your identity, proof of residence, proof of employment, phone number, address, and on and on. Even if they do manage to cash the check for you, the check will bounce and now they know how to get in contact with you.
They will start off by calling you, then mailing a certified letter, then they will escalate it and get the authorities involved. If you do not respond to their attempts to contact you, you can expect a warrant to be placed for your arrest by the authorities.
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So what should you do when a scammer wants you to cash a fake check?
Here’s my personal experience with these car wrap scammers:
The Car Wrap Scam
In mid-September, I received an email from “David Christian” that originated from the address email@example.com. The email simply said the following: Would You Wrap Your Car in an Ad for $300 Weekly? After I answered “yes,” I received the following email back:
Wrap advertising is the marketing practice of completely or partially covering (wrapping) a vehicle in an advertisement or livery, thus turning it into a mobile billboard. This can be achieved by simply painting the vehicle surface, but it is becoming more common today to use large vinyl sheets as decals. These can be removed with relative ease, making it much less expensive to change from one advertisement to another. Vehicles with large, flat surfaces, such as buses and light-rail carriages, are fairly easy to work with, though smaller cars with curved surfaces can also be wrapped in this manner. Wrap advertising is available to anybody irrespective of the vehicle you drive.
We are currently seeking to employ individuals in the United States of America. How would you like to make money by simply driving your car or banner wrapped for ROCKSTAR Energy Drink®
How it works? Here’s the basic premise of the “paid to drive” concept: ROCKSTAR Energy Drink® seek residents in the United States who are professional drivers to go about their normal routine as they usually do, only with a big advert for “ROCKSTAR Energy Drink®” plastered on your car. The ads are typically vinyl decals, also known as “auto wraps,”that almost seem to be painted on the vehicle, and which will cover any portion of your car’s exterior surface.
Don’t Have a Car? If you don’t have a car, you can also participate if you have a bike.
What does the company get out of this type of ad strategy? Lots of exposure and awareness. The auto wraps tend to be colorful, eye-catching and attract lots of attention. Plus, it’s a form of advertising with a captive audience,meaning people who are stuck in traffic can’t avoid seeing the wrapped car alongside them. This program will last for 3 months and the minimum you can participate is a month.
What is the Contract Duration? Once the wrap has been installed, minimum term is 4 weeks and maximum is 12 weeks.
Would the wrap/decal damage the paint of my car? The decal doesn’t damage the paint of car and will be removed by our representative once the contract expire. We will be responsible for installation and removal of the wrap.
You will be compensated with $300.00 per week which is essentially a “rental”payment for letting our company use the space and no fee is required from you. ROCKSTAR Energy Drink® shall provide experts that would handle the advert placing on your car. You will receive an upfront payment of $300.00 in form of a check via courier service for accepting to carry this advert on your car.
It is very easy and simple no application fees required. Get back with the following details if you are interested in this offer.
Applicant information: Name : Full Street Address(not PO BOX) : APT #: City,State,Zip Code: Cell Phone Number: Home Phone Number: Age:
We shall be contacting you as soon as we receive this information.
Best Regards, David Christian Hiring Manager, ROCKSTAR Energy Drink®
I provided my contact information, after which I received the following email:
Thank you for your swift response and your willingness to work with us. To this effect, you are advise to check your email regularly to get updates as to know when your upfront payment will arrive at your address.
1) You will receive a Check as a form of payment. As soon as you get the check, you will cash it for the decal wrapping on your car and deduct $300.00 as your up-front payment. The rest of the funds from that same check should be transferred to the Graphic artist that will wrap the decal on your vehicle. All you need is to confirm the acceptance and understanding of this email.
2) You will make a transfer of the remaining funds to the Graphic artist via wire transfer at an outlet in your area, the Info which you will make the transfer to will be emailed to you soon.
3) We’ll like you to confirm Information about your vehicle as below:
i) Type of Car and Color :
ii) Model/Year :
iii) Present Condition and the Mileage:
Note: Please, confirm that you did receive this message so that we can process funds that would be sent to you for the car advert.
All other instructions will be sent out to you asap.
I…………..Confirm to have received this email and understand the content.
Best Regards, David Christian Hiring Manager, ROCKSTAR Energy Drink®
The Fake Check Arrives
I confirmed my willingness to work with “ROCKSTAR Energy Drink.” About a week later, I started receiving text messages on my phone from David Christian regarding my upcoming “check”.
Sure enough, when I went home and opened my mailbox, I found a check made out to me in the amount of $2,350. Woo hoo!
Interestingly, the check was made to look like it was coming from BOP, LLC, a legitimate clothing store business here in Madison, Wisconsin. The envelope, however, had a copy of a USPS Priority Mail 2-Day slip on it in which Rudy Grado, at 27405 Sutherland Drive, Warren, MI 48088-6078, was noted as the sender. I took pictures of both the fake check and the envelope it came in and have provided these pictures below. The pink stickies were affixed by me to hide my home address.
I called BOP, LLC and told them that I had received a check from them for the amount of $2,350. The business immediately asked me if my check was blue. I said no; it was actually a green color. The store immediately informed me that the check was fake and I should talk with law enforcement.
Meanwhile, I had David Christian texting me at least twice that day and asking me if I’d received my instructions on what to do with the check. I texted “him” back that I had yet to receive any emailed instructions. Naturally, when I later checked my email I found the following message:
Kindly proceed and deposit the check into your bank account and funds will be available for withdrawal 24hrs after it has been deposited. I will be waiting for a confirmation message immediately the check is deposited.
As soon as the cash is out you are to deduct $300.00 which is your upfront payment and forward the balance ($2,050.00) to the graphic artist that will be wrapping the decal on your vehicle via Money Gram and they will also be responsible for removing the decal when the program is completed. Please visit www.moneygram.com to check agent location close to you and make transfer through them.
Below is the name of the receiver. Please note that the transfer charges should be deducted from the remaining $2,050. You are to get back to me with the transfer details (Reference Number and the exact amount sent).
Below is the Graphic Artist Money Gram details to send the Money to
Kindly get back with the information below once the transfer has been completed.
Reference Number & Total Amount Sent
FAQ: Why am I sending money to Florida? The head office of the graphic artist is in FL.
As soon as payment is acknowledged by them, a local artist in your area will be sent to your address to install the decal wrap on your car. Let me know as soon as the check is deposited today.
If you require additional information, do not hesitate to email or call me.
Best regards, David Christian Hiring Manager. (702)605-0985
What do you think I should do?
At this point in time, I’m debating about taking several different courses of action. I could do the following:
1. Contact local law enforcement and tell them that Patricia Barrington, Sandra Fagan and Rudy Grado are writing fake checks in a legitimate Madison business’ name.
2. Contact the FBI about the same issue since it spans several states (i.e., Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada and Florida).
3. Tell the scammers that I’ve deposited the check and am waiting for it to clear. This puts the car wrap scammers in a holding pattern because checks typically take 1-2 weeks to clear.
4. Tell the scammers that their “employment” check has been forwarded to the IRS for cashing because I owe back taxes and all my earnings must first be garnished (That should put them into a panic!).
5. New development! I might have a second car wrap scam check coming to my house very soon. This one is from George Jennings of NOS Energy Drink. Should I tell the ROCKSTAR scam folks that I’ve instead decided to work with the NOS scam folks- or vice versa?
I’ve Tried That readers, what would you do in this situation?
Update as of October 7, 2013:
First off all, thank you everyone for your feedback! I was feeling a little confrontational this morning, so I decided to first text David Christian and say that I’d deposited the check last Friday at my bank. Within seconds, I received a text message back from him, asking if I’d received my email instructions.
Deciding to not play text tag any longer, I called Mr. David Christian at the phone number (702) 605-0985. A guy with a slight English accent picked up the line and actually identified himself as David Christian. I told him that I’d deposited the check I’d been sent last Friday, but the bank had put a hold on it for some reason. He asked me how long the hold was. I answered that the bank wanted to hold it for two weeks.
David didn’t seem too concerned about the hold and said that I could just wait until the check cleared, then write out my own check to the graphic artist.
I then asked David about the Madison business that had been listed on the check (BOP, LLC). I said I was confused about why this business was being listed on the check. David answered that this business was the sponsor.
I then told David that I had contacted this business and they had no idea what I was talking about. BOP had also told me that the check was the wrong color (their checks have a blue background).
At that point, David and I lost connection. I tried calling him back at least two times. No answer. I wonder what happened. I hope he’s OK…
Information reaching me this morning has it that you will be receiving the check today. The check of $2,330.00 has been sent to you via USPS with tracking number (9405501699320009816575) and it will be delivered to you this morning. Kindly proceed and deposit the check into your bank account and funds will be available for withdrawal 24hrs after it has been deposited.
I will be waiting for a confirmation message immediately the check is deposited. As soon as the cash is out you are to deduct $300.00 which is your upfront payment and forward the balance ($2,030.00) to the graphic artist that will be wrapping the decal on your car via Money Gram.
They also will be responsible in removing the decal when the program is completed.
Below is the name of the receiver. You are to get back to me with the transfer information (8 digits Money Gram Reference) Number and the exact amount sent). You are to deduct the transfer charges ($180.00) from the $2,030.00 you have with you.
Below is the Graphic Artist Money Gram Details to send the Money to in Minutes
PAYMENT INFO Name: Constance H Lawson City: Saint Johnsbury State: Vermont Zip code: 05819
Kindly get back with the information below once the transfer has been completed.
Money Gram Reference Number# & Total Amount Sent
FAQ: Why am I sending money to Vermont? The head office the graphic artist is VT, As soon as payment is acknowledge by them, a local artist will come to your house and install the decal wrap on your car. Let me know as soon as the check is deposited.
If you require additional information, do not hesitate to email me or call me.
Best Regards George Jennings. 951-234-7388 Hiring Manager.
And here’s the fake check:
I’m seeing at least one common theme between the NOS and ROCKSTAR Energy Drink scammers. First of all, the car wrap “sponsors” are both clothing shops, BOP (of Madison, WI) and Madison et Cie (of Los Angeles, CA). What a clothing shop has to do with an energy drink, I haven’t a clue.
I also think that the NOS scam artists are far more sloppy than the ROCKSTAR Energy Drink scam artists; why would an LA-based shop sponsor a car in Madison? Unless that shop was picked only because it has the name “Madison” in it- did the scammers think I wouldn’t notice the location of this “Madison”-based shop?
Update as of October 15, 2013:
So, apparently, I don’t have to be scammed for $1,850 ($2,030 – $180 for wire transfer charges). I can also be scammed for just…get ready for it…$1,000!
You are receiving this email because you applied for car wrap job. We are please to inform you that your application has been processed. Payment has been sent and delivered which include your 1st week payment and funds for the graphic artist. We will like to have an update from you if you have been able to forward fund to your matched graphic artist head office. If yes, provide the transfer info and If you are yet to receive payment from us, please let us know so we can process your application immediately. We look forward to your swift response.
Regards George Jennings
My reply (including all broken grammar and misspellings): Thank you for email. My bank deposited the check but tell me I will receive back only one thousand dollars from thsi check. I don’t understand why.
George Jennings: Why is that? What did the bank say?
My reply: The bank is saying that the IRS is going to garnish my check as wages. I’m supposed to send them a W-9 from NOS too. Can you send a W-9 for these wages?
George Jennings: All the necessary document will be presented to you before the installation. Kindly proceed to send the $1000 via Western union to Constance to enable us book the installation appointment and the graphic artist will bring the W-9 with him. I will be expecting the Western union details.
Update as of October 18, 2013:
My saga with George Jennings continues:
Me: What about the $200 wire transfer charge?
GJ: The transfer charges should be deducted from the $1000. Kindly try and get this done today so the appointment can be booked.
Me: I sent a check this afternoon to the graphic artist. Thanks!
GJ: To who? You are to make a western union transfer to the details that was sent to you. Not send a check besides no address was provided to you.
Me: To Constance H. Lawson. She lives on Railroad St. in Saint Johnsburg, VT. It was much cheaper for me to just send a check.
GJ: Call it back.
Me: I already sent the check to her, but I can call her phone number and let her know not to cash the check. Or, should I send payment to the following address: PO Box 4125 Saint Johnsbury, VT 05819-4125
At this point, George stopped answering my emails. Too bad…
The Bottom Line: Avoid Car Wrap Job Offers
It’s near impossible to find someone to pay you to wrap your car in ads.
At best, responding to these scammers will waste your time. At worst, it could cost you thousands of dollars, financial ruin, and get you in trouble with the local authorities.
Avoid any offer car wrap jobs, ignore the people behind them, and always do your research.
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Sometimes I look at a website to review and I think to myself “My review should be one word long: Avoid!”.
That was my exact thought when I came across EPS Prosperity Hotline.com. This site screams scam.
First off, they are promising you $25 per email that you process, which sounds really good, I mean who wouldn’t want to earn $25 bucks for replying to an email?
Their earnings statements are interesting to say the least as although they state it isn’t a get rich quick scheme, they do an awful lot of pushing that you can make thousands per day.
It works the way that you are provided with 3 pre written adverts, though I am sure you can write your own if you prefer, and advised to post them to Craigslist.
Anyone who responds to this ad will need to be sent promotional information and if they join you get the $25.
The fee is a one-time $25 with an optional $10 to get a “website just like this one”.
Are there any flaws to this system?
There are plenty of flaws. To begin with let’s take a look at the actual product you are promoting, drum roll please; you are promoting the same site you just signed up to!
That’s right; there are no products, no services, nothing. Your main aim is to get people to do the same thing that you are doing.
This is just a modern day version of the envelope stuffing scams that were running rampant years ago. You are making money by promoting the idea of making money.
The only ways in which this differs from a standard pyramid scheme is that there is an extremely short “downline” (just you) and that the site owners are not part of the downline.
I am tempted to coin a new phrase and call this a “ziggurat scheme”.
You may be wondering how the parent company is making money off of this as the $25 dollars goes to you not them.
The only thing I can ascertain is that they make money from the “website” which in fact is just their website with an affiliate link.
It’s actually quite a clever way of making money off of people. Get people to sign up – in fact you cannot even sign up directly, you have to go through a person’s link to do so – and then get them to do the work in spreading the word about the system.
All they need to do is set up the site to automate the affiliate link and let’s say most people buy the “website” offer at $10 bucks, that’s easy cash.
And then there is the Craiglist flaw. OK, so you don’t need to use Craiglist and there are other possibilities listed for you, but that’s the main one they push.
Unfortunately, but really not a surprise, Craiglist has already started blocking the 3 default adverts you are supplied with, meaning you will need to use other ways and methods to spread the word or different adverts.
If you have little to no marketing acumen you may struggle to get a return due to this.
It would be no surprise to me if other classified advert places and the like are banning anything to do with this site.
There are other issues I have with this scheme: there is no refund policy at all and their sales page lists fake badges to Honest Jobs Online (who are they? I can’t trace them) and security sites.
The Bottom Line
Everything about this site screams scam! Somebody I know put me on to this site and as soon as I saw it I told them to avoid it like the plague!
That being said, I wouldn’t be giving an honest review if I didn’t tell you that you can probably make money from this.
You may be wondering why I am calling it a scam and yet saying it is profitable? Well, for me it comes down to what you are selling and the ethics behind it.
You are selling thin air and promises. If there isn’t anything tangible, be it physical, digital or a service, then it is a scam.
I also find it highly unethical for the same reasons; you are recruiting people in order to make money from their recruitment, and putting them into a situation where they in turn need to recruit people to make money.
I can’t tell you what to do, but my advice is to steer clear of this one.